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tjv305

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Am I the only one that thinks Obama's commercial with the video of Romney saying he doesn't care about 47% of people because they want the government to take care of them actually makes Romney look good? Or is it just because I am not a democrat. Sounds like Romney is saying he wants everyone to work for what they get and not live off the government.
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That 47% are oppressed! How dare you expect them to earn anything! They deserve what Romney has by fairness!........... The sad part is that they feel exactly that way and some how think that is the American way. Im all for equal opportunity. You start your ass at the bottom and bust your ass to earn everything you got like the rest of us! If you turn out to be Wealthy, my hats off to ya. Thats the AMERICAN way! I felt the same way man, glad somebody finally had the guts to call a spade a spade.
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Sounds like Romney is saying he wants everyone to work for what they get and not live off the government.

whats the problem with that?



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Everyone doesn't get an equal start. You think Romney was born at the bottom? Hell no. But I do think everyone should have to earn what they get. The rich get richer an the poor get poorer. Its just the way it is. Either except it or work your ass to change it. I was born at the bottom I chose to work my way up. Both the candidates are rich an have no concept of what its like to eat spaghetti for two weeks cause its all you can afford. Whichever you vote for doesn't matter. If you want change you do it yourself.
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I worked my ass off for everything I have, I never got a hand out, nor wanted one.
Some people were born into money, so what. If ya dont want to start at the bottom, and want everything given to you, because that guy is rich, then your just adding to the problem



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Now is that anywhere near what I said?
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romney is a silver spoon man. bad thing is he lies about everything he says....almost ever part of the debate he lied about. he sucks. so does obama. president cant bring down the prices of gas...which would bring this economy back up in a heartbeat. however, the 47% of america he is talking about are not just the people with gov't help....its people just like me who earn 50000 a year and pay more taxes than romney did with all his riches in offshore accounts and tax breaks. do i want gov't help...hell yea, give me back some of the damn money i spend out in taxes every year. fix the irs losing billions from fraud that they can't catch and give that back to us...make people on welfare have to pass a damn drug test to get it.....better yet...give them the prisoners jobs to earn money. give us more than two douchebags to choose from for presidency. give the president some real power so when everyone bitches about obama its really his fault! give me back some of that money that is used to help me get kidcare for my kids or better yet at least make it affordable for me to get insurance that doesn't have a 5000 dollar deductable like the crap i get through work.....do i want gov't help...hell yes!!!!!
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He pays a lower tax rate because his income comes from capital gains, Maximum of 15%. He also donated about $4million (30%income) to charity out of $13million and only claimed and deducted half of that, on top off the $1.9million in taxes (42%taxes&donations out of income). Those are some pretty big numbers to throw out there out of $13million a year. Just because he makes more doesnt mean he isnt paying more. We shouldnt be mad at people for being successful, we should be mad at what the people that are handling the fruit of our success are doing with it. Anytime we set limits to success and wealth we are looking at Socialism. I agree we do need more options for presidential candidates, Romney was by no means my first choice but at the end of the day he is better than the communist administration we have in there now. I also agree that Fuel prices are #1 reason why are economy is in the slump. But the president can lower gas prices by several ways. He can open up the public lands that we own and allow the drilling and other forms of crude harvesting begin, also if you caught in the debate, the government is canceling contracts and leases given to drilling companies that leased the land decades ago that are sitting on it, for what reason is open to suggestion. But the fact that they are canceling these contracts and re-leasing these properties to new drilling companies at higher rates will come back to haunt us. The companies they shafted will take that loss out on US the people at the pump immedieatly. Also the pipeline that he blocked would create a flow from canada to our refineries and lower demand, simple economics, lower the demand lower the price. Reinstating the permits to the companies that have been evicted by the epa to drill off our shores instead of the Chinese and Vietnemese companies. These are just a few ways to knock a dent in it and get us back on the right path. Not bashing you man, so dont take this the wrong way i believe in political opinions. Just wanted to see if you knew about those things. Look foward to hearing from ya.


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i totally agree he may be the best (since he is the only) choice we have to get obama out. the charity thing is cool, all wealthy people do it just to help there tax situation. hell, i remember telling people i did books for to buy a new truck since the money would go to taxes and if they bought it before the first it would actually save them taxes. he made 20 mil last year alone....i haven't researched all his numbers but anyone who makes twenty mil a year can easily pay 4 for charity. my problem is he has never lived like i live or even close. i think canceling the oil contracts that are not being used and re leasing them to companies that will use them is not a bad thing at all. if the company they take if from increases the price the company that gets it could easily make them drop their increase. i believe, and this is just an opinion, there will never be a solution because of the fact that even if you are totally against someone like big oil and you run for an elected position you quickly change your mind when they donate millions to your "campaign fund". crooked politics go from local all the way up. i think we are screwed!!!
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Well like i said we should never fault anyone for being successful. Nor should we fault anyone for their parents being successful. Im sure you want whats best for your kids and for them to be prosperous and wealthy one day and im sure you work tirelessly to give them everything they want and need. As far as the oil companies contracts being terminated, the bigger picture is the fact that the government can CANCEL contracts with no legal ramifications. Which means they can do it to any other contract at any other time. Much like the fact that they are going to force us to buy a private intitity like healthcare. We are opening the door to complete communism here and they are doing it with petty stuff because the younger (my) generation is lazy and doesnt want to earn anything. Im that exact opposite i want nothing from the government or anybody else. Like i said Romney was not my first pick either but if obama is relected, America will never be the same.
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Everyone doesn't get an equal start. You think Romney was born at the bottom? Hell no. But I do think everyone should have to earn what they get. The rich get richer an the poor get poorer. Its just the way it is. Either except it or work your ass to change it. I was born at the bottom I chose to work my way up. Both the candidates are rich an have no concept of what its like to eat spaghetti for two weeks cause its all you can afford. Whichever you vote for doesn't matter. If you want change you do it yourself.

actually mit romeny came from an middle class family and hes a self made millionare that went into politics and i wish he woulda won cause he coulda ran this country like a buissness and maybe took us outta debt

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Everyone doesn't get an equal start. You think Romney was born at the bottom? Hell no. But I do think everyone should have to earn what they get. The rich get richer an the poor get poorer. Its just the way it is. Either except it or work your ass to change it. I was born at the bottom I chose to work my way up. Both the candidates are rich an have no concept of what its like to eat spaghetti for two weeks cause its all you can afford. Whichever you vote for doesn't matter. If you want change you do it yourself.

actually mit romeny came from an middle class family and hes a self made millionare that went into politics and i wish he woulda won cause he coulda ran this country like a buissness and maybe took us outta debt

but the majority of americans dont want to work, and thats why he would never get elected...  pass over that free shit ....  we really need a nigger smiley 

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  we really need a nigger smiley 





. I was gonna say just use a really big period but I see that they're square. 
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i look at it like this, everyone works for some one richer than they are..rich people in some way or another work for richer people and so on..if you over tax the rich then they stop producing and then production stops all the way down to the bare bones minimum wage workers and then boom total collapse. people don't understand that
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